Quick n' Dirty survey

SonyEPM wrote on 5/5/2004, 8:02 AM
We'd like to know more about what kind of work you are doing, and how you are doing it. If you have a few moments, please fill this out- 3 simple questions. Thanks!

My most common delivery format is:

My second most common delivery format is:

My workflow is:

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Example:

My most common delivery format is: DVD

My second most common delivery format is: Windows Media 9

My workflow typically is: I shoot music videos with a PD170 DV camera. I capture with a DSR-11 deck. I record the band using an Echo Layla soundcard, usually 8 inputs at a time, plus overdubs. I mix the tunes myself with help from the band leader. I edit the music video myself, the band approves, I encode with Vegas, I produce the DVD-R masters and have them replicated out of house. I also produce web content for the band website.

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Jay Gladwell wrote on 5/5/2004, 8:33 AM
My most common delivery format is: DVD

My second most common delivery format is: DVCam

My workflow typically is: I shoot videos with a Canon XL1s camera. I capture with a DSR-30 deck. I edit the video myself, the client approves. Depending on final output, I encode for DVD using Vegas 5 and DVDA2 for DVD production. If for tape, I print to tape (DVCam) using the DSR-30 (sometimes BetaSP). I also produce web content for clients' websites using Sorenson Squeeze 3 Compression Suite.

Hope this helps.

J--
Jsnkc wrote on 5/5/2004, 8:42 AM
My real job...
My most common delivery format is: Betacam SP

My second most common delivery format is: DVD

My workflow is: Client Brings in tape, we either do a straight encode to DVD or bring into Vegas for minor editing. Then output via firewire to Betcam SP, or to render to MPEG-2 for DVD.

My Home based job

My most common delivery format is: DVD

My second most common delivery format is: CD-ROM

My workflow is: Shoot with Canon GL2 and GL1, bring into vegas using cheap Panasonic MiniDV camera. Edit, do a print to tape for backup. Then either encode for CD-ROM video (MPEG-1 normally) Or render out to MPEG-2 for DVD.



Grazie wrote on 5/5/2004, 8:47 AM
My most common delivery format HAS been a mixture of VCD & VHS tape for clients: This will NOW become DVD [ phew DVDA2 just in time! ].

My second most common delivery format is: miniDV tape for "another editor"

My workflow typically is: Film work; Somewhere amongst this "mess" I Create music bed - Acid or "another" method; View rushes; primary edit with/without music bed- see client; secondary edit - see client; FINAL edit INVOICE! - HAH!

I do a lot of experimentation/non-paid for artsy stuff activity. This is part of my CV for "other" clients. For example seeing 2 clients this week, will take samples for them to view.

Hope this helps too!

Grazie
DavidPJ wrote on 5/5/2004, 8:51 AM
My most common delivery format is: DVD

My second most common delivery format is: none

My workflow is:
Shoot home movies from Canon Elura, capture in Vegas, edit, print to DV tape, review tape, redit if necessary and review, open AVI in DVDA, author DVD, burn DVD-RW, review and edit if necessary, burn DVD-R.
My application is home & hobbyist usage.
winrockpost wrote on 5/5/2004, 8:56 AM
My most common delivery format is: DV


My second most common delivery format is: Beta SP

Workflow:Video shot with 2 Xl1 cams ,& for snobish clients and most broadcast we wil use a D30 &/or D600 sony , dv media logged and batch captured via AG-DV1000 with vegas, beta captured by hand using a uvw1800 s video converted via the dv1000 if final format is DV. If output is Beta for broadcast ,Vegas sits pretty and we use FCP.
Cant wait for the Decklink upgrade
Mandk wrote on 5/5/2004, 8:59 AM
My most common delivery format is: DVD

My second most common delivery format is: VHS

My workflow is: Film Events using mini DV and Hi 8 Camcorder (local high school band/marching band concerts). Capture entire tapes and import to Vegas. Sync Tracks and prepare combined sound track. Mix dual (sometimes three) video lines using excaliber. Edit combined track and export to AVI. Author using DVDA and finish.

Ultimate product delivered through boosters group to parents of members.

Tom Pauncz wrote on 5/5/2004, 9:35 AM
My most common delivery format is: miniDV

My second most common delivery format is: Multimedia CD-ROM, VHS

My workflow typically is:
I shoot whatever on VX2000.
I capture/print with a DSR-25 deck.
I record sound in video camera, external mike(s) using DXA-4 adapter.
I create background music with SonicFire Pro (yet to learn Acid).
I create graphics with Photoshop, titles with Vegas and PS, motion backgrounds with MainVision.
I encode with Vegas, to produce WM9 files or MPEG if I go to VCD (for now no DVD).
I create multimedia content with Multimedia Builder and Photoshop (for the interface).

Tom
beerandchips wrote on 5/5/2004, 9:37 AM
My most common delivery format is:Beta SP

My second most common delivery format is:DVCam

My workflow is: We either acquire on BetaSP or DVCam. Then digitize with either a DSR-11 or DSR-1800. If I don't run the Beta footage through an ADVC-100 I will YRB it from BetaSP to DVCam before digitizing. We are a PBS station and do alot of Pledge spots, Graphics, etc. We polish everything we can (ie.color correction, etc.) We are very edit intensive. Also outside client work, Sales, training etc. After editing we dump to either BetaSP for air or DVCam.

We WILL want to be able to dump to a server in the next year or so. SONY, keep that in mind please. Maybe SDI or Ethernet, etc.

sn
Rogueone wrote on 5/5/2004, 9:41 AM
My most common delivery format is: DVD

My second most common delivery format is: VHS

My workflow is:
I shoot video with a Sony Digital8 camcorder.
Record audio with camcorder mike and through a wireless microphone attached to a laptop.
Capture using Vegas 4
Edit using Vegas 4
Render product(s) to MPEG-2
Finalize product(s) with DVD-A ver 1.0c
Create DVD labels and case labels
Backup product(s) using Nero 5.5.10.42 with the DVD UDF file format
Archive any smaller clips, background art, music/sounds on CD-R

Ben
johnmeyer wrote on 5/5/2004, 9:51 AM
My most common delivery format is: DVD

My second most common delivery format is: VHS

My workflow typically is: I shoot events (sports, ballet, weddings) with a Sony TRV11 DV camera (I promise to get a decent camera "real soon"). I capture directly from the camera (or through the camera, in the case of capturing analog video) into a Polywell 2.8 GHz P4 computer using Sceanalyzer (because the capture in Vegas lacks many, many important features), and edit with Vegas 5.

Other tools in my video "bag" include: DVD2AVI (for help with clips from DVDs); IFOEdit (for modifying DVDA output, although this hopefully will no longer be necessary, since DVDA 2.0 is so much better); TMPGEnc (for inverse telecine of movie material, unusual encoding, simple MPEG cutting, etc.); Womble's MPEG Wizard (for cutting existing MPEG without requiring recompression); VirtualDub (for all manner of temporal video processing, including logo removal, temporal noise filtering, chroma noise filtering, and general restoration). and the Mainconcept DV encoder (so I can encode with VirtualDub) and the Mainconcept standalone MPEG encoder (for better encoding than even Vegas 5.0's Mainconcept encoder which still does not include most of the important controls in the standalone version). I have occasionally also used AVISynth.

I use the sound recorded by the camera (I sometimes use external or wireless mics, but the sound is still recorded in-camera). I use commercial music for most of my music beds (i.e., I do not compose my own or use ACID, although I do own ACID).

Some projects involve capture of photos, 8mm and Super8 film, and "old" (1980s) VHS video. In these cases I do extensive restoration with VirtualDub filters (for the motion media) and with Ulead's Photoimpact (for the still photos). I also restore old sound recordings (78 rpm, transcription discs, old dictation belts, 33 rpm, reel-to-reel, etc.). For these, I use Sound Forge and its Noise Reduction plugin.

I produce and replicate my own DVD-R using a Pioneer A05 burner. I do not put labels on the DVDs (just use a Sharpie) because of worry that paper labels will degrade the DVD. I do my own jewel case cover art.

I generally distribute (I do not sell my work) between five and twenty-five copies of each event. The one time I did charge (in order to limit distribution), I charged $20 per DVD.
Summersond wrote on 5/5/2004, 10:14 AM
My most common delivery format is: VHS

My second most common delivery format is: DVD

My workflow is: capture with GL-2 or TRV-900, dump to pc and work with V5 and DVD Architect 2.0. If to DVD, use Architect, if to VHS save to .avi file and dump back to JVC-VS10 to tape.
Gopher77 wrote on 5/5/2004, 10:31 AM
My most common delivery format is:DVD

My second most common delivery format is:VHS

My workflow is:I shoot live events mainly weddings on two Panasonic AG-DVX100. Some 24p depending on lighting conditions. Captur to vegas, edit output to DVDA and burn.

Also currently in Film and Video school and will be shooting my 20min film project with my cameras and editing in vegas (instead of the schools AVID)

Would like to see multiple camera angle support on the DVD, a steady shot, and motion generation plug ins for vegas (like dynapel). Also would be nice for import and rolaty capabilities with Sony's new on line music. ie If I'm publishing 20 DVDS I can buy a selecteable amount of song licenses etc.

Some other nice features would be 64 bit support, I'm planning on upgraading my computer. Dual Layer burning to support Sonys new disc drive.

rmack350 wrote on 5/5/2004, 10:31 AM
My most common delivery format is still frames

My second most common delivery format is WMV9

My job is a side branch of another job.
We shoot training material on a DSR500ws or sometimes a PD150
We log into a word file as we shoot tabletop material
I later capture with a DSR11. I keep scene detection on.
I break up footage into topics and save Veg files.
I go through and mark the stills I want, capture to clipboard, paste and correct in Photoshop.
Create rollovers in Dreamweaver. I do the entire page-photos, rollovers, research, authoring. I generally generate about 150 still per topic.

I'll describe the main job as well:
-Everything is shot in DVCAM on the DSR500ws
-For tabletops, we log as we go in a Word file.
-We convert the word file to plain text and import into Media 100 project. It creates a bin of offline clips. We use this info to capture.
-We digitize this DVCAM footage on a DSR60 deck. The deck has SDI but NO 1394 output.
-20 or 30 short movies are cut and then compressed to WMV using Cleaner on the MAC.
-files are wrapped up in a Director interface, burned to CD, and then sent out for mass repro.
-We do about 12 disks a year this way.

I describe the main job for comparison. We use 3 M100 stations. The company has a long term investment in these systems and of course we do other jobs as well, including feature length docs. I have no involvement with those aside from lighting.

There have been two main obstacles to using Vegas more widely. The first is pretty obvious-we have an installed base of Macs for editing. The knowledge base is centered around M100.

Second is hardware. Our DSR60 (A DVCAM deck) has no DV I/O on it. Without SDI and deck control a Vegas system can't access it. The DSR11 is mine and was worth the money to me just to make it possible to do my work. Vegas has allowed me to expand the HTML portion of this job and make the client very, happy with the rollovers in the pages, showing a/b shots of hand motions as we dismantle computer systems.

Rob Mack
wcoxe1 wrote on 5/5/2004, 10:32 AM
My most common delivery format is: VHS

My second most common delivery format is: none, yet. I WANT DVD, but there are just too many conflicting formats and too many incompatible machines still around to make it worth while for me. Tried it, don't like it.

My workflow is: capture with TRV-80, dump to pc and work with V4 (V5 ordered) save to .avi file and use JVC SR-VS10U to transfer to VHS tape.

EDITED and ADDED:

Someone asked why I didn't like it. So I am adding this:

I do a LOT of work for a university where all the DVD machines are older than dirt. NO one there is going to replace ANY thing before complete failure. That is, not any time soon. The machines are VERY old, hence very likely to be incompatible with EVER form of burned DVD. So, not matter what I do, when I burn a DVD, it doesn't work in a large majority of players, and I get blamed no matter what I explain in advance. So, I don't like it. On the other hand, their antique VHS VCRs are "standard" so I give them tapes. No one complains a bit. Most of them don't even "see" a difference.
TorS wrote on 5/5/2004, 10:58 AM
Most common format: DVD
Second most common format: wmv 9, neck and neck with CD (wav).
I shoot and transfer with a Sony TRV 950. Edit on Vegas 4. I have been creating music with Finale and Pinnacle Project Studio (Turtle Beach/Voyetra - if you don't know what it is, ask Peter Haller) but my ISA slot card broke down recently, so I now use interim solutions. I import/record midi instruments to Vegas and mix them there. I process audio with Vegas and Sound Forge. I render to mpeg2/ac3 in Vegas and author DVDs with DVDA.
My output is presentational videos, event documentation videos and music.
Tor
BJ_M wrote on 5/5/2004, 11:00 AM
My most common delivery format is: DVD

My second most common delivery format is: HD / D-cinema / film

My workflow is: a secret, basicly tape and frame storage from mostly 70mm film scans or from cgi output, sync'd to multichannel audio stubs .....
pretty well everything done in house ... lots of marketing materials and show production changes .. some web content .. 2d and 3d workflow on vegas ..
Nat wrote on 5/5/2004, 11:01 AM
My most common delivery format is:
MiniDV
My second most common delivery format is:
Betacam Digital
My workflow is:
For my current work I need to output my projects to digital betacam, I do this using the black magic codec and the decklink capture utility.
filmy wrote on 5/5/2004, 11:14 AM
(This relates to Vegas workflow only)

My most common delivery format is:
Currently that is Mini-DV. Only because it is the "easy" common denominator with clients. Exploring other means for higher quality - BlackMagic cards for example.

My second most common delivery format is:

VHS. Mainly for screeners and workprints.

My workflow is:

Varies from project to project.

Current feature film project was sent to me with material (some, but not all) captured and some pre-editing done on Premiere 6. I asked what the final output of the film would be and if they needed any EDL or matchback. I was told no EDL would be needed and it would not be going back into Premiere. So to prove to them a 'direct to video' feature could be done in Vegas I went ahead and started cutting with Vegas. Material is a combination of DV footage, 16 mm and 35 mm footage. All the source tapes I have are mini-DV dubs. Final output on my end will be a mini-dv 'masters'. One will be the locked picture that they will than recapture and import into After Effects for final color correction and 'film look'. Other copies will be for audio - one will have stereo comp mix, another copy will have stereo M&E, another will have stereo "M" only, another stereo "E" only. Chances are I will do a quickie 5.1 mix and burn that to DVD. Also all elements will be archived and sent on a hard drive. The big issue however is that when the film was 98% done the producer asked me to make sure everything could be output to an EDL and also opened in Premiere. (!!!!) I explained it wasn't going to happen and why and they understood. So what they will also be getting on hard drive is the full render as well as all the rednered audio tracks in a Premiere 6 project so they can re-sync their locked, final color corrected and film looked version, to all the audio. Also all the "outakes" will be rendered as full scenes and they will be turned over to the director who will be re-editing them into a "Directors Cut" (he will be using Premiere 6)

I expect that to be my typical workflow for a while with Vegas because of current limitations. In August I will be heading to Georgia to direct a feature and plan on editing that with Vegas as well. This will be shot with the DVX100a, hopefully - I have requested that. So that will be the first pure 24pa project I will be doing 100% post in Vegas.

*Important thing to keep in mind - the above projects are not DIY projects. They have to go out to other people for various items, thusly I can't ignore the workflow issues*

On the DIY front - the documentary I have done/been doing it was shot with a panasoinc camcorder and other material was shot with iehter Mini-DV or Betacam. SOurce material had be provided on betacam or Mini-DV. Some was provide on DVD. Ironicly two major news outlets could not provide material on Mini-DV so provided it on VHS (!?!?!?). The project was first edited with premire 6.5 and than frame served to after effects for the film look. In the process of doing that Vegas 4b came out with 24p support so along the way the process went from premiere 6.5 to AE and rednered and than brought into Vegas for 24p conversion. What I would love to do is import the premire project into Vegas however thus far it is not an easy path. I just dread starting the entire editing process over on this.
Sab wrote on 5/5/2004, 12:05 PM
Example:

My most common delivery format is: DVD

My second most common delivery format is: VHS

My workflow typically is: Shooting is done with DSR500 and/or DSR250 cameras. Clip logging is done manually on site for jobs that require it. Footage is captured from a DSR11in the Vegas capture utility. We usually use auto scene detection, although if the clips are already manually logged, we use batch capture. In either case, the clips are stored in a folder structure which is set up ahead of time. All video editing and sound sweetening is done in Vegas. We open Premiere from time to time to create quicktracks (we have a large library of them) because we don't have the stand-alone version of Sonic Fire Pro. Encoding to the final delivery format is done within Vegas. We use DVDA to make DVDs.

Mike
prairiedogpics wrote on 5/5/2004, 1:13 PM
My most common delivery format is: DVD-R

My second most common delivery format is: WMV 9 (occasional website positng).

My workflow is: Capture from Sony Hi-8 camcorder via ADVC-100 and firewire. Since I don't have DV control (yet!) I let the tape run and capture in 30 minute clips. Most editing done directly on the timeline (not in the trimmer). Render for use in DVD-A.
Create original music using Sony Acid Music 3.
Burn to DVD-R using Sony Burner.
Mostly home video and personal videos done. Nohting professional yet.
Jessariah67 wrote on 5/5/2004, 2:21 PM
My most common delivery format is: DVD

My second most common delivery format is: Windows Media 9 (would like better QT results)

My workflow typically is: I shoot with a GL-1, capture directly to HD. Sort & rename clips onto another work drive. Don't record in Vegas, but playback on a Delta 44 (compse soundtrack in Acid Pro, clean up audio in SoundForge). Render out and burn to DVD plus prepare WMV files for web.
flippin wrote on 5/5/2004, 2:55 PM
Most common: DVD
2nd choice: Video CD

Current workflow: Shoot using Sony TRV740 w/ Hi8 tape, capture to HD as .avi files w/ Vegas Video 3, edit video exclusively in V V 3, edit audio mostly in V V 3 and some in Sonar 2, create stills and some graphics in Adobe Photoshop, create 2D animation in Toon Boom Studio, import all into Vegas 3 for compositing, render to mpeg2 or mpeg1 (as per formats, above), burn to DVD+R or +RW w/ SonicMyDVD and Plextor burner.

Level: Amateur
Interests: Stop-motion animation, traditional 2D animation, kids' sports highlights, unusual documentaries of personal interest
Typical # of copies of a given project: 5 - 10
Audience: Family and friends

Future workflow will include: Vegas 5 + DVDA 2 (anticipated within days!!), a better camera (Panasonic AG-DVX100A), a dedicated sports analysis program called ASAP.
JJKizak wrote on 5/5/2004, 3:13 PM
DVD, HDV
WMV
Canon XL-1s then insert tape into Panasonic DV 1000.
Capture through Canopus ADVC-300 (Very nice) or capture analog from
JVC, Panasonic, Sony UV1200, or with Cineform capture from JVC-DVHS
or with MY-HD 120 Capture through Tuner or JVC-D-VHS deck. Do not have HDV camera yet. I render HD- WMV or 2200 x 2200 jpg's from vegas to mpg and then change the file ending to either tp or m2t for looking at thru MY-HD card or PTT through Cineform to D-VHS or convert back to avi for editing. The results are stunning on an HDTV set. Use Forge to edit sound and usually create something from nothing. Noise reduction is mandatory.
Sometimes play with Virtual Dub filters and Cinemacraft codec but usually don't see much difference. Steady Hand once in a while. Use DVD-A2 and love it. By the way the MY-HD 120 card is one of the best performing items I have ever purchased.

JJK
I am retired and do this for a hobby.
Galeng wrote on 5/5/2004, 3:25 PM
Most common delivery format: DVD

Second most common delivery format: DV mini Tape

Work flow: Capture agility or obedience dog competitions with cannon optura 20, capture to system using Vegas, edit clips create titles, etc., create associated music with Sonicfire Pro, output to DVD. Use Bravo II for duplication and printing to distribution to club members.