One nasty little creature named Zippy even accused another poster of being gay because he liked the new colors. Another user was afraid to show it to his clients.

To the "gay" comment I usually reply "Gee, isn't everybody?"

Seriously, I think some of the problem was that Vegas uses colors AND it uses the WinXP theme. It was just too much. Personally, the WinXP theme is the first thing I get rid of because it confuses me, is a space hog, and seems to dumb everything down. Anyway, I couldn't see what the complaint was.

Rob Mack

Yeah, this complaint just seems rediculous.
If you want a "masculine" effect, ask Duncan from Sony to post the settings he was using at NAB in the demo booth. Everything was grey, and it looked like a smoke* or fire* discreet system running on linux.
-nate

can he post a screenshot ?

That fact that Duncan was demoing the app at NAB with the settings all
grey speaks volumes. I would like to get that guys settings too :)

I attempted something, check this :

Link

Funky. Here's another one. I have a couple custom scripting icons on the tool bar.

And here's a summary of display tips for Vegas 5.

Now wait a minute. Linux can look totally Gay. Don't sell it short.

In fact, I thought the new buttons looked like a Gnome design. I love the Gayness of Gnome, but I'll stick with the functionality of KDE.

Rob Mack

Here's another one, I like it better


dark 2

That's funny, I've been editing in Vegas for 4 years but now that I can put the timeline at the bottom I think I like it....

I think Sony should hold a Best Vegas 5 color contest.

They can give away the new sound effects collection for first prize.


Nat, that's a cool look, I think you should add some color to the waveform just to brighten it a bit.

Yea, I really don’t get what all the whining is about. The first time I opened Vegas 5, I said, “oh, cool they updated the interface a bit” and that was the end of it. I just dug into the 3D motion and masking tools and never gave it a second thought. People are just making too much of this. I like the new interface. I really don’t see it as being that different than Vegas 4. It kind of looks a bit like Sonar which helps the Audio crowd I guess. I think they did a great job on Vegas 5+DVD. I’ve got my packaged upgrade on order.

~jr

Cheesehole:

Regarding: http://ben.orona.com/video/vegas5/v5screenshot5.gif

How did you get that titling effect?

Is the background a Photoshop gradient?

The letters?

It looks nice is why I ask.

Thanks!

It's done with 3 layers - all generated media.

1 - Title with outline (Dodge Comp Mode)
2 - Clone of 1 (Dodge Comp Mode)
gaussian blured with horiz 0 and vert .128
3 - Backdrop:
noise texture with a large y setting and a 0 x setting for frequency


Here's the veg if you want to check it out.

Thanks.

Pretty neat trick--and it goes to show that the "simple" titling tools built in to Vegas are actually capable of some pretty slick effects when combined with a bit of creativity.

There are a few new .VEGs on Sundance that combine titles with 3D track motion and are very impressive--I particularly like the one that rotates and "reveals" different words based on the viewing perspective.

I'm with you -- I noticed the new icons, didn't think much about it one way or another, then moved on to learn the new features.

There are, I believe, some very subtle improvements that show Sony is making room for future growth. You'll notice that many dialogs have changed from standard [static] input fields to collapsable property pages. This means more features can be added later without worry about screen real estate -- good news for all of us.

For those that have negative comments about the UI of Vegas 5 - take a look at the Boris FX LTD software. That has got to be one of the worst user interfaces I've seen in a long time. If someone showed me that interface and then explained that the program was written in 1997 I wouldn't be suprised, I would just think they did a bad job. Maybe the interface dates back to its 1995 roots - yuk!
I write software (and in particular UIs) for a living - I think these guys broke every design rule in the book!
So for those complaining about Vegas 5 - consider what the alternative might have been :-)

Hah! Makes me laugh all that fuss about the UI.
Seems like ZipVirus made its duty through constant whining and screaming. Now we're talking about being "gay" if we like it. Hah, as irrelevant as this now M. IgnoredUser 's posts on my machine (yes, I indeed used the switch and haven't regret it so far).
I'd say that as soon as we start paying sooooo much attention to a detail like the UI (which clearly IS customizable to some extent as seen in these nice previous examples¹ ) , we are not ***editing*** , a task Vegas was intended for and has been doing very well so far in my book, according to my needs...
The improvements may not be satisfactory to everyone but I've always find a way to manage things so far.
I 'm concerned about some new/past issues expressed in other posts like this Storyboard thingy and nested timeline and external preview issues but overall I'm satisfied with the new features they've come up with: rotoscopy, 3D and these new managing tools for the files that look interesting. I've not yet tested it though, but I'm sure everything works. As everything that's been released from these guys has always been working fairly nicely from the start while waiting for the minor fixes (except maybe for AcidPro4 that had a lot of issues when they released it but the bugs were fixed relatively quick ).
I'm not a professionnal , that being said. I've never used another piece of software for editing before, except for that try at Premiere while I was "shopping" for an NLE (and I dumped it pretty fast when I tried VV3) . I mainly want to make documentary, a little fiction and satisfying titles/compositing/credits...
But about that UI, I couldn't care less..!

1- and it's ALWAYS been so!

Rule #1: A streamlined workflow is an editor's best friend (and a Vegas strength)
Rule #2: If the colors of the new UI bother you, re-read Rule #1. ;-)

Vegas 5 still has the best workflow I’ve ever seen.

~jr

>>...It's done with 3 layers - all generated media...

Thanks!

One more question: I suppose that's one of the "greyest" area with me; the composite modes.

Is there any real "guide" to the modes besides the manual?

Or do you just pretty much "just play around with it?"

Thanks again!

>>...For those that have negative comments about the UI
>>of Vegas 5 - take a look at the Boris FX LTD software...

That's no kidding! It's awful.

I will say that it is no doubt consistent; I use both Graffitti (full) and FX.

They both are awful...consistently. :)

>Is there any real "guide" to the modes besides the manual?

Coming from the world of Photoshop I just kind of know what each one does. Experimentation is the best way to learn them. Put the same media on two tracks and then mess with the compositing mode on the top track to see how the different modes work.

The ones I use most often are Multiply and Screen, which are like opposites of each other. Screen will knock out any black areas of your image, Multiply knocks out white and leaves the black parts showing.

But for making cool looking glows - Dodge, Overlay, Hard light...