NAB Stream of Vegas 5 seminars... something to

Liam_Vegas wrote on 4/20/2004, 1:30 AM
As you know... our crazy - wacky ideaa is to video tape some of the Sony Vegas seminars Tuesday morning and get these turned around and available to you as soon as possible in the afternoon.

We'll be taping the DVDA2 session at 11pm. Followed by the Vegas Advanced Techniques at 12pm. We have staked out the seminars today and our plan is to capture the screen presentation with one camera (zooming in to cover the detailed aspects of the tutorial) and also simultaneously taping the presenter. We'll have to mess around a bit with wireless mic's and other stuff but we should be able to create something that is pretty useable. Nothing at all like the quality of what you would get with the <real> tutorial DVD's from the likes of SPOT or Gary Kleiner... but nevertheless it should serve the purpose of letting you see how the new features are being presented by the Sony folks.

To at least keep you going until we have managed to capture and edit the multi-camer shoot... I have pulled together a short video from some of todays's activities. The video is mostly showing a short on-camer interview with Jay Mitchel and also a view of one of the rolling Vegas 5 videos that is displayed on the big plasma monitors here all of course created using Vegas 5.

To see the video go to
http://www.ImageBEAM.com/nabstream

The Sony Vegas Users reception tonight at the Paris hotel was absolutely fantastic. We had lots of great social interaction with senior folks in Sony that really made the whole event a very positive experience. I captured some of this stuff on video (I am getting a reputation here as being the guy who is always stuffing a camera into everything and everyone). If I get a chance I will post some clips from that first thing in the morning as well.

nearly 1:30am here... and I need to get some sleep.

Later!

-Liam

Comments

rique wrote on 4/20/2004, 1:43 AM
Just saw the first stream. Very cool. Nice job. Thanks!
stormstereo wrote on 4/20/2004, 2:35 AM
Weeeeeell, I feel sooo left out. My modem is 56K and the phone line itself is really poor. How about making the streams available for download later?
Best/Tommy
Yoyodyne wrote on 4/20/2004, 3:19 AM
Thanks guys! Is there anything cooler than when those control surface faders start jumping around by themselves. If only I could convince myself I need one...

I'll second the download thing.
Yoyodyne
PeterWright wrote on 4/20/2004, 3:31 AM
Liam - thanks for the "appetiser". I really appreciate the trouble you're all going to for this - (nice to see Jay on Camera - how 'bout we see you for at least 3.5 seconds?)

Yoyodyne - yes, I must admit it's a whole new experience - what range of devices can act as a Control Surface? e.g. Could the Countour shuttle pro wheel become a fader?
Grazie wrote on 4/20/2004, 5:03 AM
Thank you very much for your hard work in getting this all together . . . When we get to the DVDA or other tutes . .How do I save the stream? Or is this a really dumb question?

Again GERAT WORK! Very much appreciated for this London-Bound Lad!

C'mon let's see some of the other "VegHeads" too! There must be some Forum celebs you could "button hole" to interview?!?!

Cheers,

Grazie
cheroxy wrote on 4/20/2004, 6:39 AM
Thanks again gentlemen!

cheroxy
jetdv wrote on 4/20/2004, 8:02 AM
Just looked at the 3 minute "teaser". Where's the "Download to hard drive" link? Playing over the web I'm only getting a picture update every 3 to 6 seconds. Sound is continuous but video is very jerky (over a DSL connection).
JohnnyRoy wrote on 4/20/2004, 8:53 AM
I just watched the first stream and it looks great. Thanks again for providing this. Any change of being able to download it to watch later would be great.

~jr
johnmeyer wrote on 4/20/2004, 9:04 AM
This is a really great service. I cannot begin to thank you enough.
Nat wrote on 4/20/2004, 9:23 AM
PeterWright : external control surface is anything that talks midi..
Liam_Vegas wrote on 4/20/2004, 12:46 PM
They'll be available for download in a couple of days.
Liam_Vegas wrote on 4/20/2004, 12:48 PM
Got a lot of "forumites" and "sonyites" last night at the party. Will put that together later today. Also will do some more "on-camera" interviews at the Sony booth.
Liam_Vegas wrote on 4/20/2004, 12:51 PM
Just to give you guys an update. We have taped the DVDA2 seminar... and the "guys" are taping the Vegas 5 Advanced Techniques seminar right now. We now have four tapes to capture to my hard drive (we could not get a hold of DV hard disk recorders in time). So it will take us a while just to be finished with the captures. Then we'll be editing and we'll post it ASAP.

Later!
johnmeyer wrote on 4/20/2004, 1:19 PM
we could not get a hold of DV hard disk recorders in time).

Sony,

Here is an example of where you can blow Adobe out of the water. Sony should develop a "Vegas enabled" hard disk recorder designed to work with both Sony camcorders and Vegas. This device would be ergonomically designed (something for which Sony has no equal), and would attach either to the hot shoe, the tripod mount, or in some more innovative fashion.

How would it differ from other, similar drives (like Firestore), and how would it be specific to Vegas?

For starters, it would insert Vegas-readable markers any time the camera settings are changed. This would include, of course, markers when the camera is started and stopped, but also when it is zoomed; when exposure is manually changed, etc. Vegas could be enhanced to allow such markers to be selectively enabled or disabled (e.g., I don't really care about the points where white balance changed, but I do want to go to the exact point where I changed the exposure when my zebra patterns started flashing). Such features would require new camera design. However, for existing cameras, the drive should be able to at least use MIC data (the data stored on Sony memory chip cassettes).

Obviously, the drive should create VEG file for all captures in a given directory so you can simply load the VEG file once the drive is connected, and your files automatically appear on the timeline (or you could design the system so they are simply loaded into the media bins). Anything to save additional time.

You could also include time lapse and stop motion in the drive.

A simple button on the drive could permit the operator to add a marker each time the button was pressed. Since the drive must have a processor and control circuitry in order to "look" like a computer to the camera, you could use that processor to automatically create the SFK files in order to reduce the time needed to get started with editing in Vegas.

I could go on (for quite awhile, actually). The point is this: Use your hardware expertise to give people a reason to want to switch to Vegas, and to give others a big reason to stay.
Rain Mooder wrote on 4/20/2004, 1:22 PM
That's a neat idea John. I do theatre recordings all the time and
exposure changes (which need to be moderated/balanced in Vegas)
written to disk would be very useful. Probably not going to happen
though.
johnmeyer wrote on 4/20/2004, 1:28 PM
Probably not going to happen though.

I can certainly understand why you say this, but I hope you are wrong. Hopefully, Sony product mangement's vision is as big as their NAB promotion budget. If it is, then coordinating their hardware and software efforts should be a major priority, and a product like a "Vegas drive" would only be the beginning of what they could do. Imagine a Sony computer, tweaked to perfection, with monitors pre-calibrated, and O/S and hardware pefectly tweaked to give the ultimate performance. How many thousands of dollars extra would most pro editors pay to have it all in one package, with everything supported by one entity? They would also gladly pay an annual fee if the support was really great.

But, back to your "ain't gonna happen" thought. You may be right. It is what George Bush the First called "the vision thing." I don't know whether they have it.
Rednroll wrote on 4/20/2004, 1:41 PM
"How many thousands of dollars extra would most pro editors pay to have it all in one package, with everything supported by one entity? They would also gladly pay an annual fee if the support was really great. "

They already have it, it's called Avid and Protools. So go out and pay the extra $150,000 and be happy.
rextilleon wrote on 4/20/2004, 1:57 PM
Jay Mitchell is much younger and better looking then his posts--LOL---Seriously, Jay and LIam, thanks so much for your efforts----You guys really deserve the kudos.